Karla's Conditions should be thrown out

[JusticeIsBS]

Here's my thoughts.

To the average criminal they apply those conditions for parole/probation/peace bonds etc. Yes she served her time and the government knows they made the wrong move in giving her the deal and now with regards to her, they sweep things under the rug and gave her restrictions to shut us, the public, up a bit.

Now in prison, she was not the quite the model prisoner as they claim her to be. There is 1 write up....on paper, and how many other incidents that were not hard copied? I believe there are more, no proof mind you but my sister was in P4W and said, she (Karla) should have been written up many times and wasn't. If she (my sis) had pulled some of the stunts she did....Lock down it would be.

I don't believe the restrictions are unconstitutional, in fact in my opinion, she deserves it as does any other sicko who is let out. As my mother used to say when I was a wild child...."You made your bed, Now you lay in it." The reason I say she deserves to have the restrictions is because she is dam* well lucky they didn't put the Dangerous Offender label on her....and she must have horseshoes up her *** to have gotten away with no sex offender label. She is a murderer in my eyes but managed to protect herself yet again with 12 years. Good 'ole Self-serving Karla.

She's just mad because she isn't free to roam on her own and this is her way of throwing a temper tantrum. I mean c'mon lady it's one year and that year is up in about 7 months, why torture those families by having to fight and look at your sickening face again.

Anyhow there's my rant lol.

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very well said!!! I couldn't agree with you more on all of it.

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I would find it funny id this was Kasrla's idea. The lawyers approached her in order to have a case to challenge the law. All the post here have been great but I noticed that there are no lawful reasons presented just personal. Personally I would like to hang her by her toes until they feel off but lawfully I don't see a reason for these conditions. Also it's not just one year the crown has the right to go back to court to extende them for another year and every year after that if they win.

[JusticeIsBS]

Hmmmm ok, trying to remember what I learned in school a long time ago lol.

For a law to become a law, a bill must be brought before parliament. Parliament then votes, with a majority the bill is then passed and becomes law. Now in order for the bill to be passed, wouldn't they have to look into whether or not it's constitutional before allowing it to be an actual law that can be upheld in society.

Logically speaking, (and this is my logic so it may not make sense hehehe) there is a reason why 810.2 is on the books in the first place. I believe it is there so people can feel like they still have a say and feel somewhat protected. We know you can get a restraining order against an offender but they aren't always followed. This could maybe help aid a rape victim for example who's attacker is out and about again. 810 may make a victim feel a little more protected as well as a public who could be at risk at some point in the future.

Personally though I think 810 should be applied to murderers and all pedophiles, as it's extra security and may cut the risk of re-offending knowing that you are being watched to some degree, that they have your DNA etc. We all know that most will re-offend at some point and with the 810 restrictions in place, that offender could be picked up on a breach until the case is put together. Another offender is off the streets then and the list of victims can't get longer.

Also, I know they can reapply in a year to have the restrictions stayed. But my argument here is to have this law apply to all high risk offenders indefinitely, I bet maybe then we will see the streets abit safer and those re-offending numbers drop. It should be applied to those who have been labelled a sex offender or those who were just under the line of being declared a Dangerous Offender. Although Karla was not declared any of those, she should have been and the government knows it, so this is their way of correcting their mistake and to try and sway the public that they ARE involved and do care. She is not rehabilitated and should have to abide by these restrictions.
So, there's my take on that. Although alot of it is still personal, hard to do when you are not a lawyer, I think it makes sense from a logical stand-point and in keeping public safety in mind.

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to answeryour question no a bill does not have to go under scrutiny concerniong if it is constitutional or not. That's why this one is being challenged now, theis will go al the way to the supreme court. No judge has ever ruled on this law.

The intention of this law was not to correct mistakes but to imform the public of a high risk offender returning to the streets. If a person goes to prison and deoas what's required of them then this law should not apply. I don't see any evidence of Karla being a high risk to re offend. Show me where they have proven under the law that she is high risk. they haven't. The crown should not be able tosay hey we stand by the deal we made but the puvlic is mad so we should do this. It won't surprise me at all if they are thrown out.
where's the charges of negligence causing death when it comes to the cop that had a report of a stalker car type colour license plate number. They did nothing about it the first time or the second time he was reported and kristen French was still alive intheir house. No disipline was taken against any of those offisers in this case. The government should not have the right to make a deal both parties hold up their end then further punish the person vecause the publics mad.
As far as your sister goes I find it really hard to believe that the gaurds gave her any special treatment. now I'm assuming Justice you;ve been inside before to. Why didn't your sister do the right thing and what was she doing doing time with Karla was Karla not in protective custody

[JusticeIsBS]

As for me, I haven't done time in an adult correctional institute, just as a juevenile for repeatedly running away from home.
My sister was in a unit that was called the SHU. It's for violent offenders. Karla was housed in the next unit over and was marched through SHU every day under heavy guard escort. It was the only way for her to get to the infirmary where she was medicated each day. She could be heard whining and throwing hissy fits when she didn't get what she wanted. Even guards would complain that she should be treated no differently because it made their jobs harder. But as I said this is from my sister and a cousin who worked as a guard in P4W.

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Cool thanks for clearing that up. Did your sister get special treatment from your cousin i bet she did ;D hiisy fits don't constitute badconduct reports. i've done time in adult and I know the guards don't like kiddy killers anymore then the inmates. since you've been in the system doesn't it piss you off that the girls in joilette didn't do what should have been done.
i guess we'll have to wait to the end of Nov to find out. God help us all if this is thrown out Lo A.K.a. karla & Lori will be out here in a heart beat telling us all that were idiots ;D

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i guess we'll have to wait to the end of Nov to find out. God help us all if this is thrown out Lo A.K.a. karla & Lori will be out here in a heart beat telling us all that were idiots ;D

A whole month left to wait again. we're always waiting where karla is concerned and it never turns out to be fair for the rest of society nor her victims so, i'm not holding my breath.

LMAO @ LO calling us all idiots! ;D ;D

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I see that the cops raided lapointe's house. LO are all over the boards yapping. I don't think she's going to be charged and I believe we're going to see these conditions thrown out. I don't think the crown or Danson have made their case. I don't see where they have proven her still a danger and quite frankly I don't see it either.